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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:24 pm 
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I thought it might be a good idea to have a thread with not only the very basics, but maybe some games and stuff too :)

Flashcards {Lernkarte} are an excellent way to quiz yourself any time you have a free moment. You might be able to find some in the store, but making your own works just as well. Plus writing it down yourself will help you remember and you can make them as large or as small as you want :)

I've made a couple here to start with, if you guys would like to try them out. Sadly I couldn't write the answers on the back of them, hehe. But I'll write the answers below and if they print out ok, let me know :)
I don't have my printer hooked up :oops:

I have some that came with my book. They are a bit smaller but they look rough, heh. I need to laminate them or something. I guess the idea is that if you've used them so much they are falling apart then you should know all of them by heart ;)

Oh I put the pronunciations that my book has. I'm sure with some words, dialect might come into play. My suggestion is this: Say it how your book says. Or how your German friend says it. Whichever you have :lol:
If you need to hear the words {and who doesn't?}, the best site for that, I think, is:
http://www.dict.cc
They speak slowly, thank goodness! :lol:

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Guten Morgen ~ good morning {said until about 10am, if I recall correctly}
Guten Tag ~ good day
Guten Abend ~ good afternoon {my friends say that most people stick to Guten Tag most of the day. But Abend is going to pop up alot :)}
Gute Nacht ~ good night
Bitte ~ please / you're welcome
Danke ~ thank you
Entschuldigung ~ excuse me
Auf Wiedersehen ~ goodbye / see you later!
Wie heißen Sie? / Wie heißt du? ~ what is your name? {remember the formal Sie is used with people that you don't know or in business situations}
Ich heiße ... ~ my name is ...

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wann ~ when
was ~ what
wo ~ where
wer ~ who
warum ~ why
wie ~ how
wie viel / viele ~ how much / many
links / rechts ~ left / right
wie geht es dir? ~ how are you?
es tut mir Leid ~ I'm sorry

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@ N: FANTASTIC idea here! This will really help increase my (now pathetic) comfort level with the language. I really appreciate it. :hug: :hug:

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I'm hoping this will be a little more fun and a little less confusing than the verb thread :oops:

Let me know how those flashcards work out and I'll make up some more if anyone would like :)
I'm copying mine for the most part, so if there is an error, heh, it's not me for once! :lol: :wink: :lol:

Oh, also on about.com there is a hangman game. Kinda cool :)

About.com ~ Hangman game

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Great stuff N...thanks for putting in so much effort on this thread :hug:

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:hug: thanks ladies.

I have something else to add to this thread. Random phrases.

I'll just toss in a random phrase {taken from a phrase a day calendar} every day or two. What I am going to try to do is keep the little phrase on me and just say it as I go along during the day.
Just mutter {ha ha} it to myself. If you're not talking to yourself by now, you really should start ;)

So for today ...

In welcher Schule geht er dieses Jahr?

in vehlkh-ehr shool-uh gayt er deez-uhs yahr

What school is he attending this year?

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Zufallsauswahl:

Findet die Partei bei die zu Hause statt.

fihn-duht dee pahr-tee by dear tzoo haouz-uh shtaht

Is the party at your house?

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Now if that isn't an important question, I don't know what is! :lol:

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This one is important ...

Können Sie die Frage bitte noch mal wiederholen?

koen-uhn zee dee frahg-uh bih-tuh nokh mahl vee-dehr-hohl-uhn

Could you repeat the question, please?

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Btw, the word 'mal' sort of threw me off for a while because it translates directly as 'times'. A friend of mine told me that it's basically an exclamation point in the form of a word :lol: It's just there to emphasize what's being said. That was the best way she could describe it.
That being said, if it's throwing you off too, just remove it from the sentence and try again. That's the only advice I have for it :oops:

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Here is some information on what we will call "falsche Freunde".
This is for English to German, obviously since I only speak English :oops: However, I would be really interested in seeing if other languages have these false friends as well :D

These are words that are spelled the same or almost exactly the same in both languages, but have totally different meanings. Cognates, which are words that are spelled the same or nearly the same and mean the same thing are great, of course.
Like: cold is a cognate of kalt.
They can really help you out when learning another language. But these faux pals here can trip you up pretty easily.

Sometimes it can be rather amusing, heh.
When my husband was in Germany, they had a very nice old couple as their landlords. The husband didn't speak English very well, but the wife did. For his birthday my husband and his mother took him a bottle of wine. They said, quite happily, "We have a gift for you!"
And the man took a slight step back and was quite confused!
As most of you know, gift means poison in German ;)

And hopefully any misunderstandings we have will be that amusing. :lol:

This isn't all the falsche Freunde between English and German, but it's probably the most common ones. It might be good to make some of those aforementioned flashcards with these on them, to quiz yourself, or at least make a list of them somewhere so you can peruse them at your leisure :)

Now my book has the cognates that do match first, in order to give you some self confidence so you can say "hey I do know more than I think!". I totally agree with that, and will gladly point out the words that are the same if you'd like.
But I thought this was a little higher on the important scale :oops:

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I love these "false friends" as I've been tripped up a couple of times too. I think it's because you think in your own language first, and if you see a word that's familiar (even though it's a foreign word) you'll automatically assign the most familiar meaning to it.

Regardless...I'd still like to send a certain ex some "gift".
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I'm so messed up some days :lol:
I looked at a post about German stuff and saw the word "die" and in my head, heard the English word. But then looking at an English post later, I saw "die" and heard it in my head as German :lol:

The word that messes me up the most? damit :lol: In English, of course it has 2 m's :wink: But every time I see it, I'm like, why are they cussing? :lol:
Ahem ... :oops:

Let's see here ...

Wir nehmen eine Stadtführung heute Nachmittag.

veer naym-uhn inuh shtaht-fue-roong hoy-tuh nakh-mih-tahg

We're taking a tour of the city this afternoon.

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Alright, here's a 2nd set of flashcards ...

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Now, all these pronouns are in the nominative tense ...

ich ~ I
er ~ he
sie/Sie ~ she/they/You
es ~ it
wir ~ we
du ~ you
ihr ~ you all
der ~ the {masculine}
die ~ the {feminine}
das ~ the {neuter}


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es gibt ~ there are/there is
heute ~ today
gestern ~ yesterday
morgen ~ tomorrow
sagen/ich sage ~ to say/I say
lernen/ich lerne ~ to learn/I learn
schreiben/ich schreibe ~ to write/I write
verstehen/ich verstehe ~ to understand/I understand
haben/ich habe ~ to have/I have
sprechen/ich spreche ~ to speak/I speak

heute, gestern, and morgen can also be capitalized if they are being used as nouns.
For these cards, they are being used as adverbs.

Heute is a good word to learn as it leads to other 'today' and 'this day' words like:
heute Abend ~ this evening
heute morgen ~ this morning
heute Nacht ~ tonight
heute in einer Woche ~ a week from today

It's a very versatile word and used alot :)

Oh, for both the ich {eeH} and sprechen {shpreh-Hen} the 'H' sound is similar to 'sh'.
Sadly it seems every German book out there uses the same symbol for all 4 sounds the 'ch' in German makes. :?

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Quote N: "Oh, for both the ich {eeH} and sprechen {shpreh-Hen} the 'H' sound is similar to 'sh'.
Sadly it seems every German book out there uses the same symbol for all 4 sounds the 'ch' in German makes"

...and how frustrating it is to those poor souls trying to learn German. :(
But still, I think that regardless of the way we pronounce it, native speakers (though they may laugh at us, possibly?) would still understand us. Hopefully if they chuckle at our pronunciations, they would not do so in front of us... :oops:

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I don't understand why the books do this. It's not just for 'ch' but it's for most of the letters or sets of letters.
Like the vowels with umlauts. In most of my books they are just written as the umlauted {?} letter. They don't really put how it's pronounced. And since the umlauts really change the sound of the vowel, that seems important to me!
:?

Thankfully R+ wrote Ich Will, so people here probably already know how to say ich right ;)

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Meine Lerngruppe trifft sich heute abend.

mynuh lehrn-groop-uh tfift sikh hoy-tuh ah-bint

My study group meets tonight.

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Boy when I said 'random' I was serious :lol:

Diese Schuhe sehen nicht bequem aus.

deezuh shoo-uh zay-uhn nikht buh-quaym aous.

Those shoes do not look comfortable.

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Ah and here is good example of how to say 'looks like'.
Conjugate sehen and then aus goes at the end of the phrase :D

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