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 Post subject: The Women's Health Rights Thread
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:58 pm 
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Inspired by Nola's post about the trouble women are facing in Wisconsin, I felt the need to share this, which I became aware of earlier today.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/03/15/texas-loses-entire-womens_n_1349431.html

Rick Perry, you are a knobhead. :evil:

Sometimes I hate being Texan. -sigh-

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 Post subject: Re: Texas Loses Entire Women's Health Program
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:35 pm 
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^ There are certainly trying to turn back the hands of time on women's reproductive health and control.


Rather than creating a new thread, I'll keep my addition concerning the Texas sonogram abortion law right here. This repressive, regressive bill was signed into law THIS WEEK.
Women seeking an abortion must submit to a vaginal sonogram - in order that they might pause and change their mind on having an abortion.

"It requires abortion providers to perform an ultrasound on pregnant women, show and describe the image to them, and play sounds of the fetal heartbeat. Women can decline to view images or hear the heartbeat, but they must listen to a description of the exam."

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Some+n ... story.html


The bitingly sharp political satire of Gary Trudeau's Doonesbury comic strip says it all:

http://blog.chron.com/texaspolitics/201 ... ter#3684-1

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 Post subject: Re: Texas Loses Entire Women's Health Program
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By enforcing this law, it seems like the Texas legislation is saying, "Well, we're going to give you abortion as an option, but not really." While abortion in itself is a gray area for me, I think making this sort of law is unnecessary, restrictive, and unfair. Sure, you want to be informed before making such a decision, but this is the wrong way to go about doing that.

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 Post subject: Re: Texas Loses Entire Women's Health Program
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:51 pm 
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^^ I can't believe laws like that would exist in this day and age....choosing to have an abortion isn't an decision most women take lightly - I'm sure the majority of them would have weighed up their options carefully, and if they feel an abortion is the best option for them, then they should be allowed to have that without being forced to undergo an ultrasound. To me it just seems like the women are being emotionally pressured into changing their minds and made to feel like they've made a bad decision, and that isn't right.

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 Post subject: Re: Texas Loses Entire Women's Health Program
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:57 pm 
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Perhaps we should make this thread into the general "The American Right takes a massive dump on women's health issues" thread?
The stuff happening over in the States regarding that stuff right now is terrifying me.

Just a few examples I could find quickly...
- Virginia passes bill requiring vaginal ultrasounds before all abortions except in cases of rape: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/0 ... 14490.html

- Oklahoma requires vaginal ultrasounds before all abortions, with no exceptions for incest or rape, and the doctor must describe the foetus in detail or force the woman to see its image: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/28/us/28 ... .html?_r=1

- Alabama requires vaginal ultrasounds before abortions: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/28/healt ... sound.html

- North Carolina requires vaginal ultrasounds before abortions, doctor must describe the foetus, and women who refuse to see or hear it will be kept on record as having refused for seven years: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/2 ... 10336.html

- Utah governer signs a bill to force women to wait 72 hours before receiving an abortion: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/2 ... 69283.html

- Arizona legislator suggests that women who want an abortion should be forced to view one happening first: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/2 ... 68386.html

- Alaskan Republican suggests that an expectant mother should need sign permission from the man who impregnated her in order to have an abortion: :http://www.huffingtonpost.com/akmuckraker/alaska-mandatory-ultrasound_b_1368906.html

- Idaho lawmaker implies women use rape as an excuse for abortion: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/2 ... 66994.html

- Arizona passes a measure whereby a woman's place of employment will not pay for birth control unless she proves she is not using it to avoid getting pregnant: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/0 ... rol-birth/

- Georgia Republican compares women to farm animals and attempts to pass measures that would force a woman to carry a baby that has died until she goes into labour naturally: http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/03 ... ?mobile=nc

- Tenessee considers a bill that will expose the identities of women who seek abortions: http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/03 ... abortions/


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 Post subject: Re: Texas Loses Entire Women's Health Program
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:02 pm 
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^ Oh my. D: D: D: That's atrocious.

If BeeKay sees it acceptable, I can change the title of the thread and make this a general women's health issue thread. It's something that we as women (as most of us are on this forum) should be highly informed on.

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 Post subject: Re: Texas Loses Entire Women's Health Program
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:34 pm 
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^ Please - it's up to you, you created the thread! :hug: The more who know about this, the better.

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 Post subject: Re: Texas Loses Entire Women's Health Program
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^^^That is truly, truly horrifying...I cannot sum it up with any other words, how I feel after reading that...

:headwall: indeed. :( :(

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 Post subject: Re: Texas Loses Entire Women's Health Program
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:16 pm 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nm5N6eGdGU

I think Kirsten Schaal´s joke is pretty spot on - anything to diminish the rights of women.
I also replied in the "Battered women"-thread.
This is horrifying - I hope there are many people who will fight against these laws.


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 Post subject: Re: Texas Loses Entire Women's Health Program
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:15 am 
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Regarding all the links Cornflake posted: I am horrified and outraged. Forcing women to watch an abortion before they have their own one? Getting a permission slip signed by the man that got her pregnant? Rape as an excuse for abortion? What planet are these people living on?!?! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

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 Post subject: Re: The Women's Health Rights Thread
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:21 pm 
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The thread title has been changed. Now, any and all issues regarding the rights (or lack of said rights) of women in health may be freely discussed. This will be a great way for us to share information, keep each other informed and, possibly, work towards some positive changes concerning the matter. :)

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 Post subject: Re: The Women's Health Rights Thread
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:54 pm 
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Those things in Cornflake's post make me kind of sick. What the hell..? :? I hate that women are sometimes treated like children who don't know their own good and can't make their own decisions and are not allowed to decide what happens to their own bodies.

In Sweden they were discussing a while back that only muslim women and other really religious women of other religions are supposed to be able to chose to have a female gynaecologist. All other women are suppose to just settle for who they get. Male or female doctor. I mean wtf? It's my body and I want to be able to chose if a man or a woman touches me. Especially for something like that. What if I feel uncomfortable with a male doctor? What if it's a young teenage girl's first time to a place like that? She might be super nervous and really uncomfortable with a male doctor. Some women might simply chose not to go and maybe not get treated for things that might be serious and could have been discovered early.
I don't know what happened with this suggestion and you would still have had the chance to go to a private doctor, but then you pay for it yourself. Not everyone can afford it.

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 Post subject: Re: The Women's Health Rights Thread
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^ :Wtf2: That's ridiculous. There might be all sorts of reasons - some of them extremely personal and not the kind of thing you would want to have to keep explaning to people, e.g. rape - why a woman wouldn't feel uncomfortable with a man she doesn't know doing gynocological procedures on her body.

To be honest, I don't know if I would be that keen on having a male gyno. And I am not the kind of person who normally has any problems talking to doctors about personal stuff; I've talked to male doctors about all sorts of personal stuff, had a male doctor examine my breasts, and so on, in the past and that didn't bother me at all; but for a gynocologist I think I would prefer a woman. It's just so extremely personal, they have to go into the most intimate part of your body, which is a part that men don't have... a man, while he could obviously be as medically trained as a woman, would not have quite the same knowledge of what it feels like to have those parts of you examined. Same as I would feel a man might prefer a male doctor to examine his balls or his prostate. I know it is in some ways a little irrational, and I wouldn't go as far as to say I would refuse to see a male gynocologist, but if I had the choice I think I would prefer a woman. (Then again, my mum's gyno is male and she's been seeing him for years, so I guess it just depends.)

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^While I think its every woman's right to choose whether she wants to see a male or female doctor, I have to say I've never really had a problem with it. All the male doctors I've seen have been nothing but professional and efficient, and also extremely gentle too. I had an ongoing problem I had to get checked out a lot (all sorted now :)) and did see a variety of doctors since they all worked different shifts (my tests and treatments were at a NHS clinic not my GP surgery so I rarely saw the same doctor) and I have to say some of the female doctors could be a little rough with the clamp, but all the male doctors were so gentle I could barely feel the clamp being used. One young male doctor there was so sweet and nice to me I actually wanted to hug him one time, lol! He had that newness to him where because he'd only been doing this a couple of years patients probably weren't just numbers to him like a lot of doctors can see you as (without being mean to you or anything, you can just tell by their demeanour) and I'll never forget how at ease he made me feel and how wonderfully he explained things and just how pleasant he was. :)

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Another Grand Male Authority comes up with an idea for how women should get birth control: with Google. No, really: http://jezebel.com/5897043/ladies-who-c ... legislator

SENSE. YOU AREN'T EVEN MAKING IT :headwall: :headwall: :headwall: :headwall:

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